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Anonymous_ to Farley3 Premium Member 2006-Nov-20 6:30 pm Re: Microsoft Xbox 360 HD-DVD drivei better go get one |
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Farley3 Member 2006-Nov-20 9:35 pm said by Anonymous_: i better go get one Nah you wouldnt like it because you actually have to register a User Name. |
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BonezX to Farley3 Premium Member 2006-Nov-20 11:40 pm said by Farley3: said by Anonymous_: o well for u with that old 720P set with the lates firmware for my monitor can do a res of 1920X1080P without the downgrade to 720P Im glad he doesnt like the 360 so theres no chance he could ever be placed on my team. you haven't played GOW with julio yet have you. just kidding julio, even though we did get our collective asses kicked. |
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Anonymous_ to Farley3 Premium Member 2006-Nov-20 11:58 pm oh that is ok |
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cbrigante2 to Farley3 Premium Member 2006-Nov-21 9:59 am said by Farley3: said by Anonymous_: i better go get one Nah you wouldnt like it because you actually have to register a User Name. He wouldn't like it because he would have to actually admit the 360 has it's good points, but by all means anonymous_, prove me wrong and get one. |
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Anonymous_ Premium Member 2006-Nov-21 1:58 pm Well any ways can the Xbox 360 's USB do at lest 28mbps sustained ? + at lest 1mbps for sound (uncompressed) |
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SRFireside to Anonymous_ Member 2006-Nov-21 4:38 pm said by Anonymous_: what is the DOA rate on the 360s? 99% of them? also do u know that 1080I = 540P Actually it's more like 720p. Interlaced doesn't mean half resolution. |
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cbrigante2 to Anonymous_ Premium Member 2006-Nov-21 4:51 pm said by Anonymous_: Well any ways can the Xbox 360 's USB do at lest 28mbps sustained ? + at lest 1mbps for sound (uncompressed) Not sure, I'm not measuring the data throughput of the unit. All I know is it supports DD 5.1 for audio, which is plenty for my setup. |
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PunkGod to Anonymous_ Member 2006-Nov-21 11:47 pm said by Anonymous_: what is the DOA rate on the 360s? 99% of them? I see you like to pull sh*t out of your ass. |
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BonezX to SRFireside Premium Member 2006-Nov-22 12:21 am said by SRFireside: said by Anonymous_: what is the DOA rate on the 360s? 99% of them? also do u know that 1080I = 540P Actually it's more like 720p. Interlaced doesn't mean half resolution. actually, it's more like 1080i, interlaced = half the vertical scan(IE framerate) |
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| GhostDoggy | GhostDoggy to SRFireside Member 2006-Nov-22 5:53 am 1920x1080 can be livered in two ways while making sure all the resolution is still present. 1920x1080P, or progressive, shows all 1080 lines progressively (at the same time) for 1/30 second per frame. Conversely, 1920x1080i does something unique different in that is separates the even and odd numbered lines into two groups, and each group is called a 'field'. Both fields are contained in each frame, and when a frame is being transmitted the first field within the frame is displayed, for 1/60 sec, and then the second field is displayed, for 1/60 sec, before the next frame is displayed. So, in 1/30 of a second you get all information contained in 1920x1080, but the transmission bandwidth requirement is halved for 1080i when compared to 1080P. The reason why interlaced video exists is to support limitations on broadcast transmission during the period of specification adoption. BTW, it should be noted that manipulation of video needs to occur in an uncompressed manner, and in a non-interlaced form. This means that for an RGB device like video game consoles and DVD players they need to be progressive in form before than can a) scale (up or down!), and b) transcode to something else like Component video. |
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SRFireside to BonezX Member 2006-Nov-22 10:19 am said by BonezX: said by SRFireside: said by Anonymous_: what is the DOA rate on the 360s? 99% of them? also do u know that 1080I = 540P Actually it's more like 720p. Interlaced doesn't mean half resolution. actually, it's more like 1080i, interlaced = half the vertical scan(IE framerate) The poster was making it sound like 1080i didn't look as good as good as 720p when in fact the two are very comparible. |
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BonezX Premium Member 2006-Nov-22 10:33 am 720p is lower resolution smoother picture, 1080i is prone to tearing. |
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| GhostDoggy | GhostDoggy Member 2006-Nov-23 6:40 am said by BonezX: 720p is lower resolution smoother picture, 1080i is prone to tearing. I disagree. Tearing is only a problem if the deinterlacer can't handle the deinterlacing properly. As a result, its a problem with the display's deinterlacer and not the source material itself. This is why junk deinterlacers cost a couple of hundred dollars and the most robust deinterlacers cost several thousand dollars. You get what you pay for. |
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| Kearnstd | Kearnstd to plat2on1 Premium Member 2006-Nov-25 12:42 pm said by plat2on1: no HDMI on the 360 makes the hd-dvd addon usesless. you are limited to SPDIF output for audio which means your stuck with the old audio formats. anyone who buys it is a fool. hahahhaha SPDIF both coax and optical can do the current formats. unless Dolby Digital and DTS are old formats because as of current they are the firm standards of home theater. |
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SRFireside Member 2006-Nov-25 5:39 pm I don't think SPDIF or optical can do 1080p. |
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imrf Premium Member 2006-Nov-25 6:09 pm said by SRFireside: I don't think SPDIF or optical can do 1080p. That's correct, SPDIF only passes audio, not video. I don't what plat2on1 is talking about with SPDIF and old audio formats since the new formats, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD, both work over SPDIF. |
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| plat2on1 | plat2on1 Member 2006-Nov-25 6:44 pm said by imrf: said by SRFireside: I don't think SPDIF or optical can do 1080p. That's correct, SPDIF only passes audio, not video. I don't what plat2on1 is talking about with SPDIF and old audio formats since the new formats, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD, both work over SPDIF. TrueHD, DTS-HD Master, LPCM, Full bit rate DD+/DTS-HD none will work over SPDIF. only the core elements of DD+ and DTS-HD can be transferred over SPDIF. |
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imrf Premium Member 2006-Nov-25 7:03 pm said by plat2on1: TrueHD, DTS-HD Master, LPCM, Full bit rate DD+. none will work over SPDIF I highly doubt we'll see a DTS-HD Master track on any movie within the next 5 years. LPCM has been passed down SPDIF since it came out. SPDIF can do DTS Encore, which is more than likely what most discs will be. All of it will work over SPDIF, but it will be downsampled to something the receiver can take. |
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| plat2on1 | plat2on1 Member 2006-Nov-25 7:15 pm said by imrf: said by plat2on1: TrueHD, DTS-HD Master, LPCM, Full bit rate DD+. none will work over SPDIF I highly doubt we'll see a DTS-HD Master track on any movie within the next 5 years. LPCM has been passed down SPDIF since it came out. SPDIF can do DTS Encore, which is more than likely what most discs will be. All of it will work over SPDIF, but it will be downsampled to something the receiver can take. LPCM is limited to two channels over SPDIF. DTS-HD core is the *same* 1.5Mpbs stream you get with a DTS SD-DVD right now. fact is, your are stuck with legacy audio if all you have is SPDIF. |
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imrf Premium Member 2006-Nov-25 7:18 pm said by plat2on1: DTS-HD core is the *same* 1.5Mpbs stream you get with a DTS SD-DVD right now. Not really. DTS even says that DTS Encore is better than currently used DTS scores. |
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| plat2on1 | plat2on1 Member 2006-Nov-25 7:23 pm said by imrf: said by plat2on1: DTS-HD core is the *same* 1.5Mpbs stream you get with a DTS SD-DVD right now. Not really. DTS even says that DTS Encore is better than currently used DTS scores. they can say whatever they want, its called marketing. it doesn't make it true. |
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imrf Premium Member 2006-Nov-25 7:26 pm said by plat2on1: they can say whatever they want, its called marketing. it doesn't make it true. Seeing that current DTS tracks are encoded at 768Kbps and DTS Encore is 1.5Mbps, yes it will sound better. Here is a link showing what the bitrates are, »www.dts.com/media/DTS-HD ··· e_US.pdf |
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| plat2on1 | plat2on1 Member 2006-Nov-25 8:00 pm said by imrf: said by plat2on1: they can say whatever they want, its called marketing. it doesn't make it true. Seeing that current DTS tracks are encoded at 768Kbps and DTS Encore is 1.5Mbps, yes it will sound better. Here is a link showing what the bitrates are, »www.dts.com/media/DTS-HD ··· e_US.pdf more marketing whiles its true full bitrate DTS tracks are difficult to come by in the US there are a few(Apllo 13 and Dante's Peak come to mind), they are more common in foreign releases. they do sound better then half bitrate DTS and DD but still cant hold a candle to the real deal. |
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cbrigante2 to lawilson2 Premium Member 2006-Nov-25 8:55 pm I don't really care what format it's using, it looks and sounds fantastic. Is it a risky format, sure...that's why they call it the bleeding edge. I'll enjoy the ride while it lasts. |
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BonezX Premium Member 2006-Nov-26 3:18 am i thought it was called bleeding edge because to use the equipment to the full potential you have to cause personial harm. |
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cbrigante2 Premium Member 2006-Nov-26 10:52 am said by BonezX: i thought it was called bleeding edge because to use the equipment to the full potential you have to cause personial harm. LOL! It will harm your wallet, that's for sure! |
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